Twenty a Webseries: Interview with Lily Richards and Caitlin Combe

Twenty a Webseries: Interview with Lily Richards and Caitlin Combe

At ClexaCon 2019, I met Lily Richards and Caitlin Combe of Twenty a Webseries. Twenty is one of the few good LGBT+ webseries currently available, and so I was really happy when they agreed to do an interview with me. We met Friday night at the Filmmakers Mixer and were doing the interview Saturday morning before the event officially started. That’s dedication! In this blog post, you will find the interview written down, but if you can, watch the video. These women are a blast to listen to and they have incredible stories to share.  

‘Twenty a Webseries: Interview with Lily Richards and Caitlin Combe’ At ClexaCon 2019, Lily Richards and Caitlin Combe discussed Twenty a Webseries. We talked about flipping the trope, dad fans, and Avocado interruptus. Read it here: http://bit.ly/TwentyWebseries

ClexaCon 2019 for Twenty a Webseries

Me: “Thank you for coming. I love Twenty a Webseries, so I was really happy to bump into you last night. You were here last year. How is ClexaCon for you this year?”

Lily Richards: “It’s really exciting being here again. When we came last year, we just finished up season one. So, we hadn’t even started releasing season two. It’s really cool to see how the following has grown from last year to this year, to come and to meet a whole wave of new fans of the show, and be able to be involved in another capacity than last year. I feel we’re even more part of the community now and it’s awesome.”

Dad fans

Me: “What do people tell you when they talk to you?”

Lily: “I guess it varies. A lot of people said they really liked the show. They enjoy the humor of it. They enjoy the relatability of it. Some of our favorite comments that we’ve gotten have been when people said like ‘the shows helped me become comfortable with who I am and things like that.’”

Me: “That’s amazing!”

Caitlin Combe: “Like, ‘it helped me connect with my parents or show friends and family what I want my life to be in regards to the normality of being queer in a non-queer space.’ That has been really heartwarming to watch. It helped mend relationships as well, which we had no idea would happen.”

Lily: “We got a lot of dad fans, which is awesome. A lot of dads who are like watching Twenty with their kids.”

Responsibility for Twenty a Webseries

Me: “Do you feel a certain responsibility all of a sudden?”

Lily: “To a degree, I also feel like, by virtue of the lack of queer content, every time you make anything that is representing the queer community, there is already that built-in responsibility to show your community correctly and to not buy into stereotypes and to not, you know, kill off your queer character, obviously, right? I think there already was that sense of responsibility in making this. There is a huge community that’s underrepresented in media, and it was our job to make sure that we were getting the right image out.”

Trying not to be super offensive

Me: “Where did you get the idea for this show?”

Lily: “I graduated from Emerson College in 2016, and upon graduating, I was going to come back to LA and predominantly pursue acting. Then I started going in on a lot of auditions for gay female characters that were just super offensive. They were like, ‘Oh, she’s like stealing this boyfriend’s girlfriend, she’s a horrible person, she’s also a murderer…’ There was just never anyone who had a storyline other than being gay and I was just very fed up with that.

So, I wanted to create a show that had queer characters and was the starring queer women but wasn’t focused on their sexuality. That was kind of just how Twenty started. I was really lucky; we have a lot of incredible friends who are very talented at improv. We were able to get them in, and just kind of have fun with them and create the show together and see what happened.”

Threesome?

Me: “So, I think it’s pretty radical to open your webseries with like the ‘we want to have a threesome with you’ conversation and how to navigate that conversation. How did you come up with that?”

Lily: “I found myself in that situation a few times, where I was like ‘Oh, I thought we were friends. Oh, you want to, oh ok…’ So that was sort of the impetus for that, and I know that we’ve experienced that a lot.”

Caitlin: “As a gay couple, or even just like going to a bar with friends and there are straight guys, and they’re all like…. ‘I’m sorry. I’m not interested. I’m dating her. Not into men…’ And then, all of a sudden, they’re like ‘oh well, we can tag-team it…’”

Lily: “That’s my favorite expression because it sounds like we’re all going to do a marathon. We can pass the torch!”

Caitlin: “It’s definitely something that we’ve never gotten as close as Maya does in Twenty to that situation as a couple, but… Especially when we first started dating, even friends did it, and it was like ‘Oh, okay…’ So we’ve experienced that a lot. I think we just go to less straight places now. That’s why we don’t experience it as much anymore.”

Lily: “We’ve been together long enough that people are like ‘maybe not a good idea…’”

Twenty a Webseries aims to flip the trope

Me: “I wanted to talk a bit about the characters on the show. Because they are precious, but they can also be a lot to handle sometimes. Where did you get the idea for them?”

Lily: “I kind of wanted to flip the trope on its head. You know, how you watch most comedic TV shows and you’ll have the straight character, and then you have the wild, quirky gay best friend. So, I wanted to flip that a little bit, and that’s why we have Maya, who is the more grounded of the bunch. And then we have Tina, who is just off her rocker. An absolute blast but someone help her. So, I wanted to have the straight character being the one that was kind of just absolutely wild. Because, yeah, I mean, we have straight friends who we’re like ‘yo, calm down!’”

Dynamic

Lily: “Kathy Dorn, who plays Tina, is just a phenomenal actress and Kathy is the sweetest, most pulled-together person you’ll ever meet. But it’s funny because she is so good at playing those roles. I’ve been in a play with her in college where we had a similar dynamic, where I was the more stoic one, and she was just out there. I really enjoyed working with her, and I had so much fun with her in that show. And so, I really wanted to bring back that dynamic, but put our own twist on it.

I left a lot of Tina up to her because I knew she could handle it. Sometimes, we would start filming a scene, and if she wanted to improvise and go off-script, I was like ‘go for it! Let’s see where it goes.’ And it was all so funny. So, with Tina specifically, that was the concept behind it. Thankfully, we had such fantastic actors who were able to take the part and roll with it and bring it to life.”

Laughing

Me: “The humor of the show is so good. I was wondering if there was ever a scene that you just couldn’t get through because it was so hard not to laugh?”

Lily: “Yeah, there were a lot.”

Caitlin: “So many. The first one that comes to mind was actually not an episode of the seasons, but we did these…. Between season one and season two, we wanted to give our audience some more of the characters while they missed them while we were doing season two. We did a few ‘how-to’ videos with the characters, and I think the one that we really struggled to get through was how to taste wine.

I posted a photo on the Twenty a Webseries Instagram of Lily, and she looked as if someone just told her a loved one passed away. The tears from laughing were so intense. It’s funny because Reyn and Sarah, who play the characters, were totally cool and stayed in character. It got to the point where our sound guy just couldn’t stop laughing. He said: ‘I’m sorry, we have to pause because I can hear myself laughing. We have to stop.’ That was something that was a mess.”

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfEuAa8lfM4/?igshid=oscmjczmddlt

Straight man fashion

Lily: “It got me.”

Caitlin: “You were so tired that day from laughing.”

Lily: “I told Reyn and Sarah ‘Well, this is a funny thing. Let’s have a Victoria and Charles try wine tasting. Obviously, Charles will have no idea what he’s doing, but he’ll be really confident about it.’ Classic straight man fashion. I just had them go with it and my God. Reyn is such a funny guy, such a good actor, and both of them were incredible. They just improvised the whole thing. They improvised for like twelve or fifteen minutes. We just edited it, but it was a blast. We had so much fun with that.”

Avocado interruptus

Lily: “And then the other one… I think it is episode six of season two where Tina comes to stay on Maya’s couch for a few days while Hector is away. She keeps interrupting Maya and Catalina every time they try to have sex. That was such a blast.”

Caitlin: “She came up with a lot of the different weird things she would do.”

Lily: “When I had her come in for the scene where she interrupts us in the bedroom and is about to go to the bathroom. For that scene, I said ‘Kathy, when you’re leaving, I want you to improvise a weird story from today. Tell us something random that happened to you. And she went on this whole thing about avocados, never having an avocado before. A different one every time and they were all so good. So, we definitely had trouble getting through that as well.”

Caitlin: “Yeah. Those were definitely the fun parts.”

Twenty a Webseries season two

Me: “I bet the experience on set can be quite different, so that’s special to have. I was wondering: going into season one, did you already have an idea for season two or that you were going to make a season two?”

Lily: “Definitely, that was the goal. I really, really wanted to do a season two. At the end of season one, we just decided. When we did the show, we had no expectations. We were like ‘this is going to be a really fun thing we do. Hopefully people find it. Hopefully people watch it.’ We were really grateful and lucky that people did find it and that people did watch it.”

Algorithm

Me: “It is so hard to get the first traction, right?”

Lily: “Exactly. I think that’s the hardest step, gathering that first fan base, getting those people who are passionate enough about it to tell their friends.”

Me: “I think I found it after about three episodes.”

Lily: “That’s what we’re hearing from a lot of people!”

Me: “It was in my suggestions, and I was like ‘let’s check this out.’

Lily: “We got on the good side of the algorithm, I guess. But yeah, that’s when we noticed it too. I mean, the first two episodes did really well; they both hit like 5,000 views when we first released them, which is good, you know.

Caitlin: “Really big for people who had no idea anyone would watch them. We hit the first hundred views on episode one, and we were like ‘Yeah!’ We were sitting there, and we’re like ‘Oh my God, we got a hundred views; we’re on top of the world!’”

Me: “I know that feeling.”

Caitlin: “And the first hundred subscribers. And then now those things are so tiny compared to what we’ve got, but I think it’s really cool to remember how excited you were for those first views.”

Milestones

Lily: “The first milestones, totally. So, after season one, we kind of took a look at it. We ended season one with almost 20,000 subscribers, and we were like ‘It would be dumb of us to end this now. People seem to really like it. People are asking us about a season two.’ Caitlin and I funded season one with our own money that we had in savings, so we knew we couldn’t do that again. We decided we were going to do an Indiegogo. We figured ‘if we really try hard, we can make the show for $20,000. And we thought twenty for Twenty would be funny.”

Caitlin: “Easy to remember.”

Indiegogo campaign for Twenty a Webseries season two

Lily: “We did an Indiegogo campaign and attempted to raise $20,000. We ended up raising $22,000, which was awesome. It was very validating to exceed the goal. And we just went right into it.”

Me: “Were you able to do something special with that extra $2,000?”

Caitlin: “So, Indiegogo does take a portion of the money out, but that extra money definitely helped pay off that charge. But honestly, I think it went more into submitting Twenty into the larger film festivals. For example, we submitted to the Streamy Awards, and that’s like the Oscars for web content. We had no idea if we were going to get in, but there’s like lots of little charges for film festivals like that, where that extra two thousand really helped.”

Locations

Caitlin: “And then once we had that, we were able to pay… We were really lucky; we got a lot of free locations, but we were able to pick a few that we had to pay for. It just boosts the production value. There’s a lot of scenes done in this one bar over several episodes, but it’s this crazy bar that has seven bars in it. And we managed to use that money to pay for that, and it helped with a lot of locations for this season.”

Lily: “So yeah, we were very grateful for that extra money. It’s funny; you think like ‘Okay, this is the goal. But obviously, if we make more than that, we can make the show even better.’ So, for me, I was so grateful that people kept donating after we hit twenty because it did make a huge, huge difference.”

Twenty a Webseries merch

Caitlin: “Also, we were selling the Twenty pins, so people were able to buy merch, which helped.”

Lily: “You can still buy them on our Indiegogo campaign.”

Me: “Yeah, I heard, when an Indiegogo campaign is successful, the link stays live. That’s awesome.”

Lily: “And we did get the Streamy nomination.”

Caitlin: Yes, we did get the Streamy nomination after all that.”

Lily: “Thank God we submitted the series.”

https://www.instagram.com/p/BoKLHdQhc97/

Next step for Twenty a Webseries

Me: “I don’t know if you can talk about it but is something new coming for Twenty a Webseries?”

Lily: “It’s so hard because right now, everything is very up in the air. We’re kind of like throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks.  We can’t make any official announcements, but also…”

Caitlin: “Your goal was always to make queer content mainstream. So, after season one, we did season two. We kind of wrapped up season two in a way that closes the webseries and we could open it up for sure. There’s so much more we could do, and that idea is still there, and we play with it and see what happens. But definitely bring it somewhere bigger, maybe off of YouTube, would be ideal. It takes a long time to get there, but we’re having a lot of meetings, and we’re working with people. So, we’ll see. Hopefully in the next few months, we’ll have some sort of update.”

Lily: “We’re hoping to bring it to a network ideally, or you know, to make a feature film based on the web series. Or to make a season three. It’s definitely not over. We’re just unsure of where we want to take it next.”

More ClexaCon 2019 fun stuff

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The Daily Life of Gay Parents Giveaway!

The Daily Life of Gay Parents Giveaway!

Want to own a copy of the beautiful book The Daily Life of Gay Parents filled with photos of and interviews with LGBTQ+ families? Annemarie Dekker and I are hosting an Instagram giveaway. To enter, please follow us both on Instagram and answer the following question with a tag in a comment: what friend would love this book too? You can find the Instagram post and rules of this Daily Life of Gay Parents giveaway below.

Join the Daily Life of Gay Parents Giveaway that I'm hosting on Instagram to win a free copy of this beautiful art book with over 50 LGBT families! http://bit.ly/TDLOGayParentsGiveAway

Unboxing video

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The Daily Life of Gay Parents Giveaway: rules

  • To win, you should follow Meemoeder.com on Instagram (www.instagram.com/meemoeder) and follow Annemarie Dekker Photography on Instagram (www.instagram.com/annemariedekkerphotography). In addition, you need to have tagged at least one person in a comment under the giveaway announcement, who would love this book as well. This will be checked if you have been picked as the winner.
  • You can enter the giveaway until Thursday, September 5, 14:00/2 pm Amsterdam time. Entries after Thursday 14:00/2 pm Amsterdam time will not be included in the random selection of the winner. The winner will be announced later on Thursday, September 5.
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GIVEAWAY! The Daily Life of Gay Parents [Photo Art Book] As you may have seen, I’ve uploaded my first unboxing video on Monday. Annemarie Dekker sent me her beautiful book The Daily Life of Gay Parents, which contains photos of over 50 LGBT families and interviews (in both Dutch and English). Well, Annemarie has promised to send one copy to a lucky Instagram follower (worldwide shipping!). All you have to do, is follow both of our Instagram accounts (@meemoeder and @annemariedekkerphotography) and answer the following question with a tag in the comment section: what friend would love this book? This giveaway ends this Thursday 2 pm (Amsterdam time zone), which is a little over 24 hours. So, be quick! I will announce the winner on Thursday. Please note that if you live outside of The Netherlands, you may have to pay for customs to receive the book (and we don’t know in advance how much that will be). You can find all the rules and info on my website, just follow the link in my bio! This giveaway is in no way sponsored, endorsed, or administered by, or associated with, Instagram. = #TheDailyLifeofGayParents #annemariedekkerphotography #meemoeder #RepresentationMatters #LGBT #LGBTQ #LGBTQIA #QueerRepresentation #LoveWins #LoveIsLove #GiveAway #portrait #portraitphotographer #modernfamily #meerdangewenst #lgbtqfamily #rozeouders #wensouders #pinkparents #lovemakesfamily #lgbtbooks #photobook #2dads #2moms #TwoDads #TwoMoms #lgbtfamily #gayfamily #gayswithkids #gayparents

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The Daily Life of Gay Parents Shows the Photos You Wish You Had Seen Sooner

The Daily Life of Gay Parents Shows the Photos You Wish You Had Seen Sooner

A few months ago, photographer Annemarie Dekker contacted me to see if I wanted to tell you about her new book about gay family life. I have been super busy with covering ClexaCon and Love Fan Fest, but I am so happy that I can finally tell you all about this new book. In fact, I recorded my first unboxing video about it! Below, you can read why The Daily Life of Gay Parents makes me very happy and where you can get your copy.

For a Dutch version of this blog, please visit ‘The Daily Life of Gay Parents laat je de foto’s zien die je al veel eerder had willen zien.’

‘The Daily Life of Gay Parents Shows the Photos You Wish You Had Seen Sooner’ A few months ago, photographer Annemarie Dekker contacted me to see if I wanted to tell you about her new book about gay family life. I am so happy that I can finally tell you all about this new book. Here, you can read why The Daily Life of Gay Parents makes me very happy and where you can get your copy: http://bit.ly/TheDailyLifeofGayParents

The Daily Life of Gay Parents is personal to Annemarie Dekker

As she describes on her website, Annemarie Dekker asked herself what daily life is like for families with homosexual parents when her girlfriend was pregnant with their first child. So, for three years, she photographed over fifty families in all shapes and sizes: two moms, two dads, single parents, and multi-parent families. We can now watch her beautiful photos in a hardcover book.

Why The Daily Life of Gay Parents makes me happy

The best way to see what impact her book has on me is watching my unboxing video below. What I can tell you, though, is that it gave me great pleasure seeing my family life represented in a book.

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Experiences

The accompanying interviews, which are available in both Dutch and English, also offer me a learning experience. I started Meemoeder.com to share my experiences when my wife and I were trying to have a baby. I was looking for other people’s experience, but all I could find were webpages from the Government and lawyers. For over two years, to give back to my community, I shared everything. Our son is now three years old, and elementary school is the next step. I hope to find a few answers in the interviews regarding how older kids and parents react to same-sex families, and learn from their experiences.

Where can you get your copy?

The book is hardcover, has 128 pages, and is 30.5 x 21.5 cm landscape format. You can order the book on Annemarie’s website. The costs are €24.95 (NL), $28 (USA), or £21 (UK) plus shipping costs.

Win a free copy!

Annemarie has promised to send a copy to one lucky Instagram follower (worldwide!), so I’m hosting a giveaway on my Instagram this Wednesday (9/4/’19). Make sure to follow me to see when the giveaway starts! Of course, you can also follow Annemarie on Instagram.

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GIVEAWAY! The Daily Life of Gay Parents [Photo Art Book] As you may have seen, I’ve uploaded my first unboxing video on Monday. Annemarie Dekker sent me her beautiful book The Daily Life of Gay Parents, which contains photos of over 50 LGBT families and interviews (in both Dutch and English). Well, Annemarie has promised to send one copy to a lucky Instagram follower (worldwide shipping!). All you have to do, is follow both of our Instagram accounts (@meemoeder and @annemariedekkerphotography) and answer the following question with a tag in the comment section: what friend would love this book? This giveaway ends this Thursday 2 pm (Amsterdam time zone), which is a little over 24 hours. So, be quick! I will announce the winner on Thursday. Please note that if you live outside of The Netherlands, you may have to pay for customs to receive the book (and we don’t know in advance how much that will be). You can find all the rules and info on my website, just follow the link in my bio! This giveaway is in no way sponsored, endorsed, or administered by, or associated with, Instagram. = #TheDailyLifeofGayParents #annemariedekkerphotography #meemoeder #RepresentationMatters #LGBT #LGBTQ #LGBTQIA #QueerRepresentation #LoveWins #LoveIsLove #GiveAway #portrait #portraitphotographer #modernfamily #meerdangewenst #lgbtqfamily #rozeouders #wensouders #pinkparents #lovemakesfamily #lgbtbooks #photobook #2dads #2moms #TwoDads #TwoMoms #lgbtfamily #gayfamily #gayswithkids #gayparents

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RED Webseries Interview LFF2019 [Part 2]

RED Webseries Interview LFF2019 [Part 2]

The most magical moment of Love Fan Fest 2019 for me was the interview I had with Ana Paula Lima, Luciana Bollina, and Germana Belo of RED. This is the first part of the interview. In the second part of this interview, we discussed season four and five, the shooting style of RED, and how they do not pick sides when it comes to their characters’ relationship. Or, they might. Below, the questions and answers of this RED webseries interview LFF2019 have been written down, but you can also watch the video under this image. 

‘RED Webseries Interview LFF2019 [Part 2]’ The most magical moment of Love Fan Fest 2019 for me was the interview I had with Ana Paula Lima, Luciana Bollina, and Germana Belo of RED. In the second half of this interview, we discussed season four and five, the shooting style of RED, and how they do not pick sides when it comes to their characters’ relationship. Or, they might: http://bit.ly/RED2LFF

RED webseries interview LFF2019: season four

Me: “We were still talking about season four, and I thought it was so well done. I really felt the hurt while watching it grow apart. I had a hard time watching that relationship coming to an end. For me, the most heartbreaking to watch was when your character [speaking to Ana] was actually becoming more uncomfortable with the relationship and who she was becoming, but you didn’t say anything. Those scenes where you did not say anything, and you just watched, those are so powerful. I was wondering, how did you prepare for those?”

Ana Paula Lima: “We have been doing this for such a long time, like for five years. Each year, I get to know Liz better. I think she has changed a lot and she changed me as well. It’s funny because it’s like I have all those feelings with me since the first season. She is a character that struggles all the time with what her feelings are and how she should deal with that. So yeah, I think it comes organically because of her, you know?”

Backstory

Ana: “The more I get to know her, and why she acts like this, it’s what feeds me to put this feeling in the scene. I’m like: okay, she thinks like this and she thinks like this because of this. Sometimes, I create a story for myself that Germana didn’t give to me. What happened to her when she was a child? Who is her mom? Who is her dad? How does she feel when she has a lot of people around her? Does she feel awkward or not awkward, you know? This feeds me a lot.”

RED webseries interview LFF2019: finally watching season four

Me: “Did you both feel differently after reading the script for season four and finally watching it on screen?”

Luciana Bollina: “It’s always a surprise because Fernando doesn’t let us see anything. Nothing! It’s ergh. Now, we are used to it, but in the first season, I was like: ‘Why Fernando? Come on, let me see this.’ ‘No. Just when I finish it.’ So, seven months later, we can see it. It’s a really good surprise, actually.”

Ana: “Now, we trust each other so much. That’s what is beautiful because then we can really jump to the characters, and I think it’s amazing when I watch. Nowadays, I don’t want to watch. I want to be surprised, and I always do this. So, that’s what I think is amazing; we really trust each other to work like this. It’s special.”

RED webseries interview LFF2019: handheld camera

Me: “One thing that makes RED unique to me is the way it is shot. You can tell it’s often done with a handheld camera. I don’t know what the technique is. Either the camera is really close to your face, or it’s really zoomed in. Did you have to get used to that in the beginning? Was it awkward, or was it fine?”

Luciana: “It was very funny at the beginning. Yeah. We were on the bed, and Fernando was like here [gestures]. One foot here, one foot there and the camera like here [gestures]. Fernando was like this [imitates]. And Ana and I had to like [mimics making out]. It was very funny.”

Germana: “We had one lens. So, to do a close-up, he [shows the camera in Luciana’s face]. They would have to be sexy and feel so into it and Fernando, well, it was almost like a threesome.”

[All laugh]

Luciana: “It was really, really funny. But Fernando is a very serious man. So, we would laugh, and Fernando would be like [serious voice] ‘Okay.’ Okay, breathe, breathe. Because I would start laughing and he would be like [serious voice again] ‘Okay, next scene.’”

RED webseries interview LFF2019: season five

Me: “Can we talk about season five, or is it too early?

Ana: “No, we can talk, yeah! For me, what is special in this season is that we get to know the characters by themselves. How is Liz just with Liz? How is Mel being Mel? It is not about relationships just with each other. It’s the relationships they have with themselves. What are they struggling with, and why? And that’s what makes it special because our time to tell the story is so short that sometimes, we miss these details. So, this season five is special to me for this. We don’t miss this; it’s about this.”

RED webseries interview LFF2019: Victoria

Me: “My next question is not a question. I’m just going to say something, and then you can respond. It’s a name: Victoria.”

[Luciana starts laughing]

Ana: “Who is Victoria? Tell me!”

[Both laugh]

Ana: “An amazing friend, co-working friend. Bela is the best, a really, really great actress.”

Luciana: “You know, there’s always an ex. So, it’s a representative character that the past is there and something that was special. So, I think it was a very interesting conflict between them. But I have my opinion.”

[we all laugh]

Conflict

Luciana: “Yeah. I really don’t understand Liz. No, I get the struggle but oh my God, tell me. All the silence is killing me, killing Mel. As an audience, I was like: ‘Oh Liz, tell her and fix it. That’s okay. She didn’t love her.’”

Ana: “And I was like, ‘Well if she didn’t love her, why?’ But we don’t take sides. We don’t judge.”

[Both laugh]

Me: “Why did you write Victoria into the story?”

Germana: “We imagined Mel’s ex in the first season, and we planned to bring her, maybe not exactly how it turned out to be. But we decided that if we got to season three or four, we had this background story for Mel that included an ex.”

Exes

Germana: “But what I think was interesting was that she didn’t come in to be between them. What you see and the reason why they grow apart was not because of Victoria. It was mostly because of Liz’ issues with the relationship and insecurities, and how she could no longer recognize herself in that relationship.  I think Mel didn’t give any indication that she would be interested in anything with Victoria since the beginning. Maybe it was a threat for Liz, but she was not introduced like that. The same way Rafaela was not introduced as a threat to Mel. So, we have two exes, but they were not there to be between them. What tore them apart was just what was going on in the relationship and not people outside of it.”

Ana: “It’s more mature like that, right?”

Germana: “Yeah, and I think that if they get to the point where they have a mature relationship, they would gladly accept each other’s exes, as a part of their lives. It wouldn’t be a problem.”

RED webseries interview LFF2019: mother-daughter relationship

Me: “I think season five has two strong concepts in it. The mother-daughter relationship, that’s really tough. It’s always in life; it has so many dimensions. How did you prepare for that? How did that come across for you?”

Luciana: “That was really hard because that relationship is so real life. Mel just gets insecure around her mother. In season five, you will see; it gets deeper. You can see the love; it’s not just demanding things and ‘you don’t do this or do this.’ It’s a real relationship. It’s my opinion that Mel really cares about her mother and her opinion, and so she’s always like ‘Oh my God.’ So, it’s very interesting. The mother of Mel will be deeper in season five.”

Watch season five

In my final question, I mention two concepts. I did not want to mention the other one because I do not want to spoil too much for people who have not watched all the episodes yet. You can watch all of RED on Vimeo. Also, you can enjoy these other videos of Love Fan Fest 2019.

Next week, I will publish the second part of the interview. There, we talk about season 4 and 5 in more detail. In the meantime, you can enjoy these other videos and blog posts about Love Fan Fest 2019.

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RED Webseries Interview Love Fan Fest 2019 Part 1

RED Webseries Interview LFF 2019 Part 1

The most magical moment of Love Fan Fest 2019 for me was the interview I had with Ana Paula Lima, Luciana Bollina, and Germana Belo of RED. In this part of the RED webseries interview, we discussed the current situation for LGBT+ people in Brazil, the beginning of RED, and the series up to season 4. Next week, the second half of the interview will come out, which will focus on season 4 and 5. Below, the questions and answers have been written down, but you can also watch the video under this image. 

‘RED Webseries Interview Love Fan Fest 2019 Part 1’ The most magical moment of Love Fan Fest 2019 for me was the interview I had with Ana Paula Lima, Luciana Bollina, and Germana Belo of RED. In this part of the RED webseries interview, we discussed the current situation for LGBT+ people in Brazil, the beginning of RED, and the series up to season 4: http://bit.ly/RED1LFF
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RED webseries interview: guests of Love Fan Fest 2019

Me: “I was really happy to see that you were announced to Love Fan Fast this year. How has it been so far? You have had your first morning. Have you had nice meetings with people?”

Luciana Bollina: “Oh, such nice meetings with people and to know people from other countries. It really, really makes me very happy because I know about people’s lives. And we have a chance that people can get to know us, and our show especially, because I think the majority of the people here knows RED but not everyone. So, it’s very good to share.”

Ana Paula Lima: “Yeah, they’re really open to getting to know you. And they’re really special in the way that you feel embraced. That’s… I don’t want to use the word special again, but it is an amazing experience.”

Me: “Ah, that’s great. I think… What you say, people are really open to high-quality queer shows, and your show is definitely beautiful. It’s something else.”

The current situation for LGBTQ people in Brazil

Me: “So, I’m not from Brazil. Can you help me understand what the current situation is for LGBTQ people in Brazil? Because I get mixed messages. For instance, can people walk hand in hand in the streets, or is it too dangerous?”

Germana Belo: “Yeah, it’s definitely not like a safe space or a safe place for LGBT people because… This is what the numbers say. We are the number one country that kills LGBT people.”

Me: “Oh…”

Germana: “It’s a reality, but I think it depends on the kind of circle you live in. For me, I don’t feel that so much as an LGBT woman. I can say I kind of live in a bubble because some people live like that. The circle of my friends and family, they are all very accepting, but I know this is not the reality for most people. And people get killed every day because they are trans, gay, and lesbian. And we know that happens.”

Bigger cities

Germana: “Fortunately, I live in one of the biggest cities in Brazil. So, it’s easier for anyone who lives in the capital, with more open-minded people. Even though bad things would still happen, it’s better for us. But I know it happens. As I said, we kind of have this privilege of living in a place and circle that is more accepting.”

Ana: “There are more people that are more open-minded.”

Germana: “Yeah, in a circle with creators and people who are open to, you know, differences, whatever they are. But the reality of the country, in general, is that it is not a safe place for LGBT people.”

RED webseries interview: first lesbian webseries in Brazil

Me: “So, you are the first lesbian webseries in your country. When season one dropped, what were the first responses that you received?”

Germana: “Because we didn’t have money for marketing, the feedback, in the beginning, was very slow. We received great feedback, but it was a small number of people. The way we promote our series is very organic. So, people like the series and tell their friends to watch it. So, it demands time. By the time of season 2, it really began to create a larger fan base. But really because we didn’t have a way to market the series better. So, we had to wait for people to come to us.”

Ana: “It was really positive feedback. We never received something that wasn’t nice, you know. Everything that happened with RED happened in a really special and positive way. Like having an experience outside Brazil. Getting nominated in other countries like ‘oh my God, look at what they’re doing’ and we’re like ‘oh my God, yeah, we are.’ It’s amazing. I think we always manage to figure out what’s always positive.”

Positive feedback

Germana: “Sometimes I joke because our feedback is mostly positive. And sometimes I joke saying: ‘Okay. When we start getting haters, it is probably because we really made it.”

Me: “Yeah, definitely!”

Germana: “Because so far, we are in a niche. The people who come to us are the people who like it. The time we manage to reach people who wouldn’t like it, you know, it’s when you start to become mainstream. You would reach a large number of people, and some of them could not like it.

So far, mostly, our feedback is very positive. We have a lot of feedback because it’s also part of the project. The idea of RED is interactive feedback. We talk with our fans through our social media, through our personal social media profiles and RED’s profiles.

So, this is also part of the project. Nothing is separating us from the people who watch the show.  We talk to everyone. We have a lot of channels, like Instagram, Facebook, and Vimeo, so feedback comes from all over our channels. And it’s great.”

RED webseries interview: every fan’s fantasy

Me: “RED originally started with two actors who have a relationship on-screen and then fall in love off-screen. I think that’s basically every fan’s fantasy here at Love Fan Fest. Some fans see a couple on-screen and then think it’s in real life too. How many actors have told you: ‘thanks for feeding that idea. Now I get that even more?’”

Germana: “That was not random because I am this public. I know you because I am you. So, I know this is the general fantasy of everyone. We were thinking about telling a love story between two women, but this could be, like, whatever. And I thought: ‘Okay, maybe it would be interesting to have that.’ That is a fantasy of every fan, to have two actresses who work together fall in love. So, it was not random. Because we knew it was a fantasy.”

Me: “I thought it was pretty clever when I first saw it. Anyone in particular you had your inspiration from?”

Germana: “No, the main premise is just this fantasy that was the inspiration: the fans’ fantasy of having two actresses together.”

RED webseries interview: ClexaCon visit before season 4

Me: “At ClexaCon last year, you [Ana and Luciana] both said that when you read the script for season 4, you both had moments where you were like: ‘I’m going to call Germana and ask her if she’s sure.’ We hadn’t watched season 4 yet, and I always wondered what the exact moments were that you were like: ‘are you sure? Is it a good idea?”

Ana: “Season 4? Wait for season 5!”

Luciana: “Yeah, it gets worse. It’s because we are fans of the characters.”

Ana: “Yeah, we really watch our show.”

Luciana: “Yes, we watch like you. You know: ‘oh my God, what is she doing?’

Ana: “Yeah, we are the audience.”

Luciana: “I usually watch my interpretation in something, but not here. I really enjoy the love story here. We always talk to Germana like ‘Germana, why?! What is happening?”

Ana: “Yeah, we suffer too.”

Luciana: “Yeah, we suffer a lot.”

RED webseries interview part 2

Next week, I will publish the second part of the interview. There, we talk about season 4 and 5 in more detail. In the meantime, you can enjoy these other videos and blog posts about Love Fan Fest 2019.

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Love Fan Fest 2019 Sunday [Wynonna Earp, RED, Skam España, Carmilla]

Love Fan Fest 2019 Sunday

June 30, 2019, marked the second and final day of the second edition of Love Fan Fest. On Love Fan Fest 2019 Sunday, I visited many panels, talked to RED for a second time, and went to the closing party. You can read all about it in this blog post, or you can watch the vlog I made of this day. This vlog has a special message from RED and the full closing party. You can find it below this image.

‘Love Fan Fest 2019 Sunday’ June 30, 2019, marked the second and final day of the second edition of Love Fan Fest. On Love Fan Fest 2019 Sunday, I visited many panels, talked to RED for a second time, and went to the closing party. You can read all about it in this blog post: http://bit.ly/LFF19Sun
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Love Fan Fest 2019 Sunday started with the WayHaught panel

On Love Fan Fest Sunday, I started a bit later than on Saturday. After all, on Saturday, I had to pick up my press pass at 8 a.m. On this day, I didn’t have anything planned until around 11 a.m. The WayHaught panel was planned at this time, which was fun as always. Kat took her parents with her, and I immediately noticed them on the side of the stage. They were looking really proud and then Kat introduced them to the audience, which obviously gave a big round of applause.

Someone in the audience had this really good idea of giving them lines from certain scenes. The other person had to guess what the follow-up line was. It was really funny to see how competitive Kat and Dom both were.

It’s funny to look back at these Wynonna Earp panels. They had heard that they were starting filming season four already and we had not yet. So, sometimes, with the answers that they gave, you can tell that they were really looking for ways not to reveal the truth.

Skam España panel

Then, we had to leave the room for the next panel. I think it was actually the first time we completely had to clear the room. It was time for Skam España. I had not watched that show, so I was surprised to see the incredibly long line waiting to get back into the panel room. They obviously have a huge number of fans. That made me realize I probably had to watch that show.

I wanted to know a bit more about the show, so I visited the panel. Unfortunately, I could not understand it as it was in Spanish. I did return at the end of the panel and realized they sometimes said something in English. So, I could have stayed, but I thought I’d be wasting my time. I still want to check out the show, though!

RED panel

Then, it was time for the RED panel. I absolutely love listening to them. I know quite a lot about the show as I had interviewed them the day before, but because of the fans’ questions, I still heard some new things.

It’s beautiful to see how incredibly grateful they were for being present at Love Fan Fest. I truly think they deserve all the exposure and support they can get. Season 5 is out now. If you haven’t watched the show already, please pay for a season if you hit a paywall. It is worth every penny.

Melanie Scrofano’s panel

After RED’s panel, it was time for Melanie Scrofano’s panel. She cracks me up every single time.

However, there was also one serious, special moment. It really had an impact on me when she told everybody she had had treatment for an eating disorder. Apparently, she has talked about it before, but I didn’t know. And the beauty of it was that she told about it after having been asked what she was proud of. She has obviously come to terms with it. You can tell it affected the room. She received a big round of applause.

Love Fan Fest 2019 Sunday ended with the Hollstein panel

The next panel was the Hollstein panel. Natasha and Elise were happy to be on stage again. The funny thing was that the same person who asked Kat and Dom the lines questions asked Natasha and Elise that question.

Elise immediately got really nervous. She said it was like her nightmare where she was standing on stage in a play that she’d done years ago and she can’t remember the lines. Carmilla was recorded about five years ago. She definitely had a hard time remembering the lines, which was just hilarious to watch.

They praised the person of the question. Dana, who often moderates their panels, always has these really fun things for them to do on stage and this one definitely had the same quality.

Another season?

One thing that I remember from this panel is that Elise asked the audience if, if they would make another Camilla season, would we all watch it again? Would we be interested in that? The entire room responded with a ‘yes, of course,’ which kind of surprised both Natasha and Elise. They didn’t know that that would still be a thing, which in turn surprised the room. She stated that she didn’t have any information about a possible season 4, but she just wanted to know. Well, I hope they will think about it now that they know this.

Love Fan Fest 2019 Sunday: final autographs

The Hollstein panel was actually the last panel of Love Fan Fest 2019 Sunday. Then, there was a giant time block scheduled for autographs. This was the only event happening at this particular time, so that meant that every con guest was signing and every con visitor was waiting in line for an autograph. It was a huge queue. I didn’t want to film it because waiting in line is no fun. I didn’t want to upset people.

After a while, I was called into the autograph room. I was not allowed to be there as press; it was just for the con’s own videographers. However, I was allowed to talk to RED for a few minutes. As a result, I was able to ask them one question: how had they experienced the weekend of Love Fan Fest?

Rewatching this footage made me happy all over again. You can watch it in the vlog I posted online. Slowly but gradually, people were done getting their autographs. The first post-con blues started to hit people. We realized it was time to say goodbye to people we would not see in a while because they live in a different country or even on a different continent

Closing party

But first, closing party! Everybody started to gather in the panel room. We had to wait a bit. People started to throw a ball in a basketball hoop. What? Watch the vlog.

Then, all the actors came on stage together. Like last year, the final moment of Love Fan Fest 2019 Sunday was emotional with lots of love and gratitude. We all watched a video together about this second edition of LFF.

Every actor had a moment to say something. I don’t think anybody could have counted all the tears that were shed. The closing party lasted about twenty minutes, so that means there were a lot of tears, words of kindness, and rounds of applause. And with that, the second edition of Love Fan Fest 2019 came to an end!

Love Fan Fest 2019 Sunday means final goodbyes

I was hungry, but I didn’t feel like leaving and saying goodbyes, so I ended up staying until around 10 p.m. I had some really meaningful conversations and final hugs. That was it for me too.

Yes, the upcoming weeks, I will still have blog posts and videos about Love Fan Fest. So, stay tuned!

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